tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1077798568962470757.comments2023-06-28T01:28:11.536-07:00RevelationsDr. Goddesshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10391508073605640275noreply@blogger.comBlogger169125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1077798568962470757.post-67791872493313161392010-12-10T13:19:50.112-08:002010-12-10T13:19:50.112-08:00There is a lesson in this event. I believe Wesley ...There is a lesson in this event. I believe Wesley Snipes will return from the Mountaintop of his Intellectual Genius and become a greater Man of Wisdom disciplined and ready to lead Black America to the Promise Land. Wesley Snipes will become such a developed individual that they will parole him ASAP. This is just the beginning of a new Wesley Snipes.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05345727131899624013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1077798568962470757.post-64797731825981528322010-12-09T17:51:44.770-08:002010-12-09T17:51:44.770-08:00"Deliverance will come" Mr. Snipes will ..."Deliverance will come" Mr. Snipes will rise again..You will never find justice in the state of Florida...This is a sad day for sush a good actor..and such a proud person...I love Mr. Snipes for not only his acting performance, but also because all my friends tells me my only son looks like Wesly snipes...I live in Florida..and recall when he was in Florida making that movie and th cops picked on him for riding his byke too fast...They hate black people with ant power..I am waiting to see what they plans are for the President.As the saying is in Jamaica "One Love".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1077798568962470757.post-6790136666808412612010-12-05T05:32:20.416-08:002010-12-05T05:32:20.416-08:00RE:"An Open Letter from Wesley Snipe's Wi...RE:"An Open Letter from Wesley Snipe's Wife on His Tax Case"<br /><br />Time is diferrent for each culture, I remember the "Honorable Elijah Muhammad" giving lectures on the "theology of time", since then I have found the perception of time is different historically and culturally. The solving of problems must begin with "Man know thyself", because from there you discover you are everything and everything is you. Self.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1077798568962470757.post-28649819167399654252010-12-02T13:15:06.713-08:002010-12-02T13:15:06.713-08:00I have followed this from the beginning and I trul...I have followed this from the beginning and I truly believe that this is a gross miscarriage of justice. It is not surprising though since only a miseducated person can truly believe that this is a nation of justice instead of laws. The true threat to your freedom is the Judge, not the law. This Judge from the beginning was not an unbiased judge. The sad fact is that the government has been after Wesley since he bought his compound in Georgia and rumors and innuendos started flying way back then. There has been misconduct from the bench on down to the Jury on this and NO other Judge seems to be willing to call there Buddies out on this - Judges don't rat on other Judges or go after their colleagues no matter how unjust they are. This is what we are seeing.Marjacksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1077798568962470757.post-31633641699588351232010-12-02T08:02:49.268-08:002010-12-02T08:02:49.268-08:00Every Black man gets arrested is not Malcolm X. An...Every Black man gets arrested is not Malcolm X. Any Black man who expects justice or fairness in the United States is a fool.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09443873242901761806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1077798568962470757.post-10707012312433306932010-12-01T21:02:19.890-08:002010-12-01T21:02:19.890-08:00"Yet I keep my faith in the belief that there..."Yet I keep my faith in the belief that there is justice for us to be found somewhere in this country." Such faith in the face of obvious injustice is what keeps us from achieving systemic change. Judge Taney made it clear in Dred Scott decision that the laws of America can not/will not be applied equally.freezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06271231702334613323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1077798568962470757.post-6120255680160464492010-11-25T21:19:19.722-08:002010-11-25T21:19:19.722-08:00Opps mispelled one lolOpps mispelled one lolNoble Gianthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03210957849845565216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1077798568962470757.post-48641442448497446642010-11-25T21:17:44.688-08:002010-11-25T21:17:44.688-08:00Your blog entry reminded me of the Alburn Ave. Dis...Your blog entry reminded me of the Alburn Ave. District in Atlanta. Maybe on day out of faitth and or desparation, we'll get back living together, shopping in our stores, and generally supporting one an other.Noble Gianthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03210957849845565216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1077798568962470757.post-65162371793445951442010-11-06T04:23:13.357-07:002010-11-06T04:23:13.357-07:00Wow, looks like a heck of a show. Break a leg!Wow, looks like a heck of a show. Break a leg!ESPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03209044488530116599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1077798568962470757.post-27743123260186753032010-11-01T02:28:57.088-07:002010-11-01T02:28:57.088-07:00Thank you so much, each1teach1, in all fairness, t...Thank you so much, each1teach1, in all fairness, this is still a fairly new project and I'm sure those celebrities and more will help out. However, it's the awareness, education and continued engagement in our communities that makes the real difference. Ruleville, MS is still a small, mostly poor town and as more and more persons learn about Fannie Lou Hamer and what we're doing, I'm sure they will Chip In! Nevertheless, please don't hesitate to chip in even $1. We want for everyone to feel a part of this statue and the Memorial Garden, so it would not be a huge win for us to have a big celebrity donate all of the money. As your name states, "each1teach1", we all have something to contribute. Thank you so much for your support!Dr. Goddesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10391508073605640275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1077798568962470757.post-76141692558145109472010-10-30T15:50:05.817-07:002010-10-30T15:50:05.817-07:00How can anyone not be for Fannie Lou Farmer, Ella ...How can anyone not be for Fannie Lou Farmer, Ella Baker or anyone of their ilk? They are why we are today. Thank you for posting this, I had not heard of the institution before either.<br /> As a struggling African American woman though it puzzles me that the millionaires and billionaires like Oprah Winfrey don't just take it upon themselves to do this.each1teach1https://www.blogger.com/profile/04901712661301312871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1077798568962470757.post-22369333282451369422010-10-28T10:51:54.378-07:002010-10-28T10:51:54.378-07:00AYCE:
Your comments are hilarious but I understand...AYCE:<br />Your comments are hilarious but I understand where you're coming from, to a certain extent, only because if *I* were one of the initial bloggers duped under NWNW, I would be mad as heck, too. <br /><br />As per your disclaimer that you are one of the original NWNW bloggers, you cannot claim an objective point of view, so please rethink that idea.<br /><br />And again, the focus on my degree is understandable (with a name like Dr. Goddess) but surely you also understand that (with a name like Dr. Goddess), there is an obvious blurring of the lines and a point of engagement that belies this being a dissertation or solely a scholastic enterprise. Please understand that and interact with me accordingly. This is my blog, not a classroom, although both myself and others with whom I interact here always learning something.<br /><br />You have not seen my entire response to NWNW because my FIRST response was to do what I always do… sit back, listen, observe, try to understand and, if I can, get information from the source. <br /><br />Now, AFTER I read some of the posts and listened to the radio program, it became more than obvious what was going on here and my reaction was negative and filled with cynicism because that is the effect the shenanigans of NWNW provided. It is not I who led with negativity, Maurice, it was NWNW. Please don't liken me or any of my work to the woman who wrote the Section 8 post, thanks.<br /><br />I'm not surprised you've distanced yourself. SO MANY of the original bloggers have and I totally understand why. Further, if you need THAT much help, then perhaps this is not an initiative you should have undertaken before you had any real buy-in from persons who could actually help, yes? <br /><br />Let's be real here. Who has enough organizing skills to collect 100 bloggers to do a media campaign but doesn't have enough to actually be a real leader or initiate something real, in the real world. Maurice, this is a media campaign. Open your eyes…<br /><br />You can't tell me to "keep it movin'" if I don't like her cause. If it's going to affect me and mine (and it's TARGETED towards ME, as a Black woman), I'm not going NOWHERE (yes, I said nowhere as opposed to "anywhere"). Just like the Tea Party. If you want to hate on somebody, do it in private. You bring it into my living room or bedroom, then we have a problem. Eff that.<br /><br />I don't see why you have a problem with Maya Angelou or Al Green, by the way. At the end of the day, NWNW is funny and you must allow us our wit to deal with this nonsense. Laughter is the best medicine and NWNW is no cure.<br /><br />I agree with you that Twitter & Blogs are TOOLS that we can use and I suggest you, I, we use it for precisely that purpose, not to launch media campaigns for self-promotion, calling it a Movement…Mm-kay?<br /><br />Now, if you say you welcome intelligent attempts to repair and build the Black community and the world community, then support those who are doing real work in both. And if you're feeling jiggy, buy my CDs and DVDs and support my work just because it's positive, engaging and fun.<br /><br />By the way, I never even remotely uttered the phrase "white people's standards" so the fact that you would put it in quotes is just… I mean, come on, man… Come on…<br /><br />You should know, however, that the first institutions for higher learning and the attainment of degrees occurred in Africa and the first university in Europe was created by Africans. Further, the obsession of the French with all things Egypt and "enlightened' is what inspired the ideas around masonry, masonic teachings and the idea of degrees. Those did not come from the Masons, my brother, they came from African people and the Masons chose what aspects they wanted to copy/mimic.<br /><br />Thanks for your time.Dr. Goddesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10391508073605640275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1077798568962470757.post-70579752138999090962010-10-28T09:13:11.448-07:002010-10-28T09:13:11.448-07:00"That's not showing you care about the Bl..."That's not showing you care about the Black community. It shows an Uncle Ruckus mentality to be the first to bash your community & point fingers instead of reaching a hand...Oh thats right, you made it out "the hood" so everyone should be able to help themselves."<br /><br />BINGO. And it's classist, elitist and racist---just like I said in my post---all wrapped up in a PR game. Whelp, I'm not buying it. <br /><br />MixedMilitant wrote:<br />The fact is, there are worse problems the Black community has to deal with rather than Out of Wedlock births. AIDS percentages. The number of Black men in prison. Infant mortality rates. Unemployment. Lack of educational resources. & now, of course, the NWNW movement who is oh so eager to sterilize all of the "young black hoodrats on section 8". <br /><br />TEACH!!!! I really can't say it much better than MixedMilitant did, so go on with your bad self!<br /><br />"Most of you are hypocrites, hiding behind statistics that aren't even fully accurate & wanting to force down our throats that the Black community has a problem, when in fact YOU are the ones who are ADDING problems to our community with no viable solutions."<br /><br />BINGO. This is really important because the statistics are skewed and don't account for the many ways in which Black men and women have navigated the world IN SPITE OF lack of resources and racism. Further, when Ta-Nehisi Coates wrote his article, the FIRST thing an NWNW supporter did was attack him for not being married to his child's mother. The fact that Ta-Henisi is coparenting his child meant nothing to them. So, you are totally right about the hypocritical statements and behavior.<br /><br />"Raise the broken home rate in order to lower the OOW birthrate--because marriage is the cureall? Pfft no. And sure she SAYS marriage is not a cureall but then she turns around and insinuates the only way to hold a black man accountable is to make him marry you? PFFT C'Mon Son."<br /><br />BINGO. And their answer to the PRESENT 50% "Divorce rate" is that at least they were married at first. That's how you further know this has more to do with the politics of respectability and avoiding communal shame, more than anything else---and it's sad.<br /><br />"You've had your 15 mins, NWNW...you have been acknowledged & rejected. Nice Try. NEXT."<br /><br />LMAO!!! So true. They just don't want to accept that. But we HAVE acknowledged NWNW, we've paid attention and we find it wanting. The Black delegation would like to trade NWNW for Bristol Palin, please. At least that way we can see the hypocrisy in a more obvious package.Dr. Goddesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10391508073605640275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1077798568962470757.post-12659494655755504972010-10-28T09:13:02.066-07:002010-10-28T09:13:02.066-07:00MIXEDMILITANT asked:
"Why is it that every ti...MIXEDMILITANT asked:<br />"Why is it that every time someone says something intelligent against your little movement/protest/attempt at mind control/whatever you want to call it, that you jump on them and personally attack them; however, Christelyn is always above reproach or personal critique?"<br /><br />That's an excellent point and it's behavior I've witnessed as well. I'm just glad someone else sees it.<br /><br />Further, you said:<br />"Her Interracial marriage may not be a point of contention for any of you; however, the fact is, when you attach the NWNW hashtag to rhetoric that tries to promote interracial dating/marriage."<br /><br />Oh but it's not just the hashtag. NWNW is embedded within Christelyn's project, "Beyond Black & White", a website and campaign/possible book that *champions* interracial relationships. The fact that people are suggesting that BBW & NWNW should not be associated with one another is entirely ludicrous and an attempt at obfuscating what we can all now see to be true:<br /><br />MixedMilitant wrote:<br />"The fact is, most black women don't want to hear rhetoric about the black community from someone who they feel has already given up on it by turning to a White husband & encouraging others to do the same."<br /><br />BINGO.<br /><br />"The fact is, most of the followers of this movement have made generalized racist stereotypes about members of their own race in order to get a pat on the head from the organizer."<br /><br />BINGO. Further, some of the more prominent NWNW espouse constant hatred of Black men and the Black community---before, during (and surely after) they've been pushing NWNW. And, of course, Christelyn doesn't mind because, in many ways, she seems to feel the same way. If it were me, I would NEVER allow anyone to misrepresent my cause but such is the case because they're NOT misrepresenting her feelings or her outlook.Dr. Goddesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10391508073605640275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1077798568962470757.post-11049169048681348782010-10-28T09:11:38.706-07:002010-10-28T09:11:38.706-07:00LORRAINE:
There is no hatred or venom in my post, ...LORRAINE:<br />There is no hatred or venom in my post, especially not to "us sistah" so you need to follow the advice I gave Tracy above.<br /><br />A part of the implied conclusion of NWNW is to marry out of the Black community if you're a Black woman that wants to have kids, there is no question about that. If you can't see that… well…<br /><br />I really wish you all were as passionate about education as you were in policing women's wombs. A girl can dream, right?<br /><br />I named a few white men who have left their wives because too many of the NWNW's major supporters and spokespersons are women who have *outwardly expressed* sheer hatred for Black men, call them "Damaged Beyond Repair", tell Black women to "Divest" from the Black community and other such nonsense. Oh and don't forget creating a website, writing a book and championing interracial relationships. I certainly can't exclude that, even though it is certainly Christelyn's right to do. How on Earth do you expect to be successful bashing Black men as you try to build up the Black family and the Black community? I mean, seriously… think on that for a moment…<br /><br />I know all about the AIDS/HIV epidemic. Soooo, if you all truly cared more about "the children", why isn't your focus on saving children from AIDS/HIV? Why isn't your focus on saving Black women infected with AIDS/HIV? I mean, they have the children, right?<br /><br />Think about the shenanigans of NWNW and think about the real world, please. The REAL world, not the BLOG world, at least a part of which lives in an escapist fantasy world.<br /><br />As for rape, I wholeheartedly agree with you and those are issues that I choose to address (and well), btw. I also choose to work with persons and organizations ALREADY doing the work. See how that works? I saw no need to start a NEW campaign about it and act as though nobody in the Black community EVER addresses it or is doing anything about it because that would be entirely disrespectful to the persons whom I know ARE doing the work.<br /><br />As for the continued hate on my Ph.D. and snide remarks… all I can do is laugh.Dr. Goddesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10391508073605640275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1077798568962470757.post-58344842423180828612010-10-28T09:11:11.191-07:002010-10-28T09:11:11.191-07:00TRACY:
I'm really not an advocate of screw who...TRACY:<br />I'm really not an advocate of screw who you want and screw all you want to. I just have a totally different paradigm (and dream) for Black women (and all women, really). I asked Christelyn if this was about safe sex and she blocked me (as you can see in my post) so, whatever. <br /><br />As for the whole interracial marriage thing, please see above. I've made myself clear.<br /><br />Correction: The norm in the Black community is NOT to sit like frogs in a pot of slowly boiling water. Where the heck do y'all live? I mean, seriously, have you been to a Black church lately? Or a youth group? or an afterschool program? How out of touch are Christelyn and the rest of this rabid bunch of defenders from the Black *community* that you somehow think nobody is doing anything? I mean, it's insane, really… I just have to say it's such a total misrepresentation of the Black community, it's ridiculous.<br /><br />And this is coming from someone who has a number of qualms with the Black community but preaching about no sex before marriage and not bringing babies home? Oh, that's a message you can get anywhere, all day, everyday in the Black community! Y'all need to stop plain'…<br /><br />By the way, Black girls fare much better in a healthy VILLAGE of persons, with their parents, extended parents, community.<br /><br />Everything else you said about "white folks are doing it", etc, is something you have never read in my post, so I can't even address it. Y'all have GOT to stop making stuff up and responding to it as though someone said it.Dr. Goddesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10391508073605640275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1077798568962470757.post-47964184006648940262010-10-28T09:09:23.161-07:002010-10-28T09:09:23.161-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Dr. Goddesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10391508073605640275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1077798568962470757.post-31631241519869944782010-10-28T09:08:37.524-07:002010-10-28T09:08:37.524-07:00CHERYL:
The reason why some people think NWNW is a...CHERYL:<br />The reason why some people think NWNW is a "Movement" is because that's what Christelyn has been promoting and pushing. Don't blame us for reading…<br /><br />If NWNW was just a "protest" meant to spark conversation, "nothing more, nothing less" then we can call this a success and wrap it up, right? But no… <br /><br />What happened is, Christelyn wasn't prepared for the criticism she would receive around the poor foundation that NWNW was built upon---PR, book deals and sponsorship money. So, as the criticism came pouring in, Christelyn has spent most of her time putting out fires and letting everyone know this is a "hot topic" to attract more media and further secure the book deal and sponsorships. <br /><br />I'm not against anyone getting a "come up", especially not a woman and especially not a mother. But it's wrong to:<br /><br />1. misrepresent what you're doing to initial bloggers<br /><br />2. build your media empire on the backs of shaming Black women and dogging Black men<br /><br />3. claim to want to start a conversation and then NEVER answer questions, block people left and right on Twitter (I'm talking over 30 people here, some of whom were NWNW supporters that just wanted clarity!!!) and then whine about being misrepresented, throwing up a straw woman about race.<br /><br />4. post other peoples' blogs without permission so you can generate buzz or claim it's already been generated.<br /><br />5. Delete tweets, posts and comments that challenge any aspect of what you're doing.<br /><br />6. And then lie, obfuscate and otherwise dismiss anyone who has noted any and all of the above behaviors. <br /><br />Yes, I know all about initiatives and programs taking time. My question is, if you are all so concerned, why not just assist real programs that have ALREADY taken the time to do this work? It's so disrespectful to reinvent the wheel, especially on an issue such as this. And if there is no program IN YOUR AREA, then it's disrespectful to tell the nation that no such program, initiative or message exists in THE COUNTRY and, thus, you had to do it.<br /><br />Yeah, I missed the Nisa Muhammad piece but I stand by what I said in terms of the packaging of "Black Marriage Day" versus what has happened with "No Wedding, No Womb" and the stupidity of the slogan.<br /><br />Cheryl, you think the "protest" was well-intended, I do not. Therein lies the difference.<br /><br />I agree with you about making unwise decisions but that occurs on so many levels and in so many different ways. We DO have a problem discussing sex and sexuality within the Black community, no question about that. So, if some women have been enlightened by just the "buzz" around NWNW, then great! I agree with you about education and I'd rather the focus be on education and not wrapped in a shame slogan and campaign. That's the problem. <br /><br />My having a Ph.D. is irrelevant to my opposition to this media stunt, rather, it's been my experiences as an activist that have me disgusted. But that's you all's bag and trip, not mine.Dr. Goddesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10391508073605640275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1077798568962470757.post-23985756055097062652010-10-28T09:05:14.909-07:002010-10-28T09:05:14.909-07:00Now that I've rested up a bit, I can respond t...Now that I've rested up a bit, I can respond to the comments you all made. <br /><br />Apparently, I missed the "oh you fancy, huh?" reply software so this post and my labeling by name will have to do for now, if you don't mind (and even if you do).<br /><br />Hence:<br /><br />CARDENIE:<br />No one ever said that Christelyn's past out of wedlock pregnancy with a black man and current interracial marriage is the proof that NWNW is "a race game, shame game and publicity stunt". Do all of you NWNW supporters skip words and ideas I've clearly stated in my post---or just you? <br /><br />Again: Christelyn *champions* interracial relationships. She is now running a campaign that TARGETS Black women and shames them for choosing poor, Black men who (supposedly) won't marry them before getting them pregnant (just like her ex). You may not see a problem with that logical fallacy and race game---but I do.<br /><br />The nuclear family IS a Westernized concept being shoved upon African people, who have their own ideas about family constructs. Yes, human beings have always formed units for the betterment of themselves and their communities (including the children), so that should be the focus, not a "Western marriage" and the imposition of a nuclear family. <br /><br />DEBORRAH:<br />What you just made up is a description of an "ad hominem attack". You're not allowed to just make up things and then assign them to someone. What is it with the more rabid NWNW supporters amongst you? I just don't get it…<br /><br />Nowhere in my post is there any type of attack (I mean, NONE) on Christelyn's white husband or Christelyn for having a white husband. I refer you to my comments to Cardenie.<br /><br />Yes, I know what the focus of NWNW and the focus is one that is:<br />1. ahistorical<br />2. factually unsubstantiated<br />3. culturally biased<br />4. classist<br />5. escapist<br />6. based on revenge (against Black men who have ticked you all off)<br />7. barely based on any concern "for the children"<br /><br />I criticize this stunt because it is NOT a movement, rather, one focused on obtaining as many media opportunities, book deals and sponsorships Christelyn would like to amass, as opposed to doing any real work in the community. That's why. And it disgusts me, especially since there are so many organizations doing real work that never get the assistance they need.<br /><br />Beyonce is important to consider here, so I would not dismiss her (and I have not).<br /><br />The numbers of Black teens having babies with men is called statutory rape. I focus on THAT and have BEEN focused on that for years. Poverty rates, PERIOD, are a problem and educational opportunities are also at issue. See, what some of you have amassed in your minds is that you and only you, because you joined a media campaign, are the only ones saying or doing anything in the community or about it. That's complete and total hogwash and it tells me just how involved you actually are within ANY Black community. It speaks volumes, in fact.<br /><br />You are extremely ignorant if you think that Black girls who didn't grow up with fathers don't know what they have missed out on; and further, I'm sure you raised a few good points in your article but how does telling someone what they missed out on benefit the cause? All you're doing is shaming them and their mothers. That is not the way to get a point across and it's yet ANOTHER reason why I reject the NWNW----overall ineffectiveness and wayward thinking.<br /><br />Everything else you said is simply a straw woman you made up, so there is no response. <br /><br />As for your commitment to NWNW, I have a different prediction and it involves crickets.Dr. Goddesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10391508073605640275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1077798568962470757.post-27320530722625008782010-10-28T08:33:20.872-07:002010-10-28T08:33:20.872-07:00The bell hooks quote knocked me off of my feet and...The bell hooks quote knocked me off of my feet and made me utter a Michael Jackson, "Hee heee!"<br /><br />Yep, that's the crux of it all.RiPPahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08876723972974044402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1077798568962470757.post-65456483458777404492010-10-28T00:36:06.987-07:002010-10-28T00:36:06.987-07:00I for one have been paying attention from an OBJEC...I for one have been paying attention from an OBJECTIVE POV to what Christelyn, supporters of and those opposed to NWNW have said and done, and that’s what had me distance myself from BOTH sides. Christelyn has ADMITTED she needs help and has ADMITTED she’s not a LEADER per se, just the “Organizer” of the cause. While I don’t agree with that concept, as I’ve told her, it’s her right to start a conversation that perhaps another REAL LEADER can pick up and give real life and direction to. All the “opinions” of people on twitter about her, who she married and dissecting her cause are as the saying goes, “just like ______s, everybody’s got one and they all STINK”. You don’t like her cause, keep it movin! People can do their own work to make change and let her do her thing. <br /><br />All this “I’m so witty and can quote Mya Angelou and Al Green” garbage is for the birds and all the “Amen Corner” folks really do need to get a life outside of twitter. Unfortunately you don’t need any qualifications to have a twitter account and a blog and talk out of your…<br /><br />Bottom line, I didn’t want to get in the whole twitter/blog cross-fire but at this point it can be a gift or a curse. It’s a gift if we use it as a TOOL and not as a WEAPON. A tool for communication and growth, or a weapon of mass community destruction…you choose. I’m not gonna debate here or anywhere else, but from this point I welcome any intelligent attempts to repair and build both Black community and world community. <br /><br />P.S. Saying NWNW is pushing “WHITE people’s standards” or anything close to that is ignorant. Truth be told, when you go to “college” and get “degrees” you’re doing the same exact thing – most often while becoming a SLAVE to white-man’s DEBT when you get out. Just the concept of “degrees” relates to Free-Masonry, which no BLACK person can ever reach the upper levels or “degrees” of. And no, Grand Puba of a “Prince Hall” sect doesn’t count…so we should be careful throwing around the whole “White people’s standard” argument.AYCE MEDIA TVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02554476637369688453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1077798568962470757.post-1232963112854932572010-10-28T00:34:41.148-07:002010-10-28T00:34:41.148-07:00First and foremost, my comment here is coming from...First and foremost, my comment here is coming from a place of a BROTHER addressing brothers and sisters about a FAMILY issue that should never have been aired in such a “Dirty Laundry” manor by people on BOTH sides.<br /><br />My personal solution to the issues raised on either side of this “conversation/movement” is that I’ve been developing and executing education and personal growth programs for youth and young adults for over 10 years, now expanding from California to other major metro cities nationwide. Designed to get to the SOURCES of all these issues and address/develop it early in kids’ lives.<br /><br />That being said, I’m extremely disappointed in people on both sides of this conversation/movement or whatever fits your semantic taste as there’s been a lot of juvenile convo and ridiculous baseless arguments. Lots of proof that people can be so-called “educated” and still be ignorant or just plain dumb. You can use a million $1.50 words (per the recession) and still be an ig-nant nee-gro whose words are not worth 2 pesos.<br /><br />Total disclosure, I was a “contributor” to NWNW and aided in having the theme song produced. Song served a purpose and was not meant to be a top 40 dance sensation. That’s all I’ll say about that. <br /><br />What I won’t do is air every private convo I’ve had with Christelyn as it’s not necessary, I will however give appropriate pieces that fit here in context. <br /><br />Upon meeting Christelyn via her request for a singer on twitter, the aim was to assist in getting the song done as I agreed with what she said NWNW was about at the time, a CONVERSATION/DIALOGUE about the issues of OOW children and the high number of single parent households in the Black community. No person with half a brain can deny there is a problem that’s affecting other areas in society that at least PARTLY has to do with kids not having proper love and guidance. I agree with the “WEDDED double entendre” as there should be more of a commitment by both parents than is the case now. She and I do not and never have agreed on a number of things and that’s okay, NWNW is HER way of dealing with the issues and I support her right to do that.<br /><br />Bible thumping and grand-standing on BOTH sides has been counterproductive. Quite frankly, the “First Church of Twitter” and “Pentecostal Bloggers” make me sick as really, that’s a bigger problem in the black community than OOW kids and crack…IGNORANCE AND ELITISM. <br /><br />Dr. Ellis, I respect your having matriculated and earned your doctorate, however I’m not a “believer” and what I do believe is that your words and approach have been counterproductive. I know your Oompa Loompas and jock-riders will gasp and have a witty “sista-girl” response, but the REAL truth is that you began your entire response to NWNW with cynicism and negativity. “Sloganeering, Slacktivism” and the beginning of your piece are all using as much of a “pompous” attitude as the one you and some of your “followers” accuse Christelyn of having. I liken it to the (young lady – out of respect) who wrote the “Section 8, baby mama next door” madness, as she defeated her whole purpose (whatever THAT was) just by leading with negativity.AYCE MEDIA TVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02554476637369688453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1077798568962470757.post-74392007028565247402010-10-27T20:40:26.071-07:002010-10-27T20:40:26.071-07:00Greetings everyone, I have to apologize to anyone ...Greetings everyone, I have to apologize to anyone who posted after my last response. I guess I need to click the "email follow up comments" button. LOL.<br /><br />I realize that some of you have decided to make ignorant comments and, not to worry, you shall be handled. <br /><br />What I also love, however, is when someone with a critical mind comes along, sees through the nonsense and issues such a proper response that I don't NEED to respond and should only if I want to. Thank you, MixedMilitant, you hit the nail on the head. I have seen NWNW supporters tell other Black women to go to hell, as well as try to tease or laugh at them for being single parents. I have also seen Christelyn second, promote and otherwise passive-aggressively insult other women who don't agree with her by posting articles that disparage our children and, yes, those that disparage Black men and promote interracial relationships. Further, neither she nor other NWNW proponents say anything at all to those NWNW "supporters" who routinely define Black men as being "Damaged Beyond Repair" or to those who advocate "Divesting" from the Black Community. <br /><br />So, it all smacks of personal shame and shaming, elitism, classism, hopelessness, the absence of love for the Black community and a wholesale misunderstanding of our history as well as our continuing struggle. <br /><br />This is why persons such as Deborah, Cheryl, Lorraine, Tracy, etc., "just don't get it". Bless them, though. Maybe it'll happen one day...or not.<br /><br />For the record, I think Black women deserve the best. Indeed, my name does not include "Goddess" for nothing. Further, neither you, Lorraine, nor any of the white supremacists you seem to hang out with can take away my education, so ain't life grand?<br /><br />The reality is that many of us have been working on supporting the Black Family and support organizations that put in REAL WORK. That's why this PR stunt called a campaign or a movement is seen precisely for the shallow slacktivism that it is.<br /><br />Write your book, Christelyn, make your money and please leave other women's wombs alone.<br /><br />Have a great day!Dr. Goddesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10391508073605640275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1077798568962470757.post-88799149233518627502010-10-27T20:23:56.802-07:002010-10-27T20:23:56.802-07:00Dear Jaz, thank you so much. I'm sure your pos...Dear Jaz, thank you so much. I'm sure your post is just fine and I'm headed there to read it! I'm more and more horrified everyday by what I'm choosing to dub as the BMAs (the Black Men Ain't Sh*t) Brigade. I feel bad for them and, yet, the idea that there is no hope or growth to be had for Black men is just sad.<br /><br />Kelli, same here. I am thankful for you all posting! Sorry for the delay, I've been working on two (real) campaigns and also procrastinating on Twitter (LOL).<br /><br />Shame is such a powerful psychological place and so (self) destructive. As I've shared with Christelyn, I want her to be free of her shame and, by extension, free everyone else of her need to do the shaming.<br /><br />A girl can dream...Dr. Goddesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10391508073605640275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1077798568962470757.post-67900276230034421442010-10-13T18:36:34.358-07:002010-10-13T18:36:34.358-07:00What a beautiful post! The exact same sentiments I...What a beautiful post! The exact same sentiments I was trying to say in my blog post on the topic! Where there is shame, there is no understanding and summing up the problem of Black single motherhood to women not making the man wed them before they give it up is anti-feminist and anti-progressive. I hope these ladies don't want to go back to the days of Scarlett O'Hara! Thanks for sharing!<br /><br />Kelli<br />www.theblackcouple.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com